Discourses about the body are followed through Bakhtin, Hobbes, Freud, and Foucault to an updating of Marxism, arguing against bourgeois individualism that subject is a limit-zone of collective bodies. A viable materialist but dialectical theory of the body, and consequently a viable theory of the subject, still seems lacking.  Appended is an unpublished response to papers in a colloquium on Bodies.